Challenging Legislation and Empowering Advocates: Alicia Garcia on Upholding Second Amendment Rights and Grassroots Activism

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Hi, welcome to the Armed Guardian Podcast, season 2, episode 13.

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Today, crystal and I will be talking with Alicia Garcia on how you can be your own Second Amendment advocate and then help stand up for the rights that you have foundationally by the Constitution for being an armed citizen.

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So sit back and enjoy today's episode.

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Our sponsors for today are Right to Bear Legal Protection and Blackout Coffee.

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Check them out in the show notes and the mid-show roll for a special invitation.

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Hi, welcome to the Armed Guardian Podcast.

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I'm your host, brian, here today with Crystal, our co-host, and our special guest, alicia Garcia.

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She's going to talk to us about being a Second Amendment advocate and standing up for your civil rights as far as comes to firearms.

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So, without any further ado, how are you doing today, alicia?

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I am doing excellent, Brian.

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Thank you so much for having me on your show today.

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Thank you, crystal.

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How are you doing today?

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Ma'am, I'm doing well, brian.

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I appreciate you as your co-host once again doing well.

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Brian, I appreciate you being on as your co-host once again.

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Yeah, like I had mentioned to you before, whenever we have asked you to be the co-host, david and I.

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My other co-host, david's a little under the weather today.

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I think he's got a sinus infection, so he was having some issues and said he wasn't going to be able to come on.

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But, yeah, we wanted to kind of have a third opinion and looking for a female's opinion, because some of the things no, david and I, of course, are males and, uh, you know, we may forget to mention something or talk about something when it comes to the possible females perspective or issue.

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And, um, that's we.

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We talked it over and I had crystal on for an episode and then, after that episode, I put it to her and asked her if she wanted to be on the?

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Uh, a co-host with us, and she graciously, uh, agreed and uh, it's been a been a great ride so far.

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So so, thank you, crystal you're welcome, brian all right, so I wish I could see your face.

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I I wish I knew who I was talking to, crystal.

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I don't know why I had so many problems with this.

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It's just I have no idea.

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I tried everything and I'm like you know what.

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We just got to get the ball rolling here it's kind of like, uh the audio myself.

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Uh, another time yeah, it's kind of like the audio.

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I was having a problem and come to find out it was on my end.

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So, um, with uh, you, you and crystal couldn't hear me, so but I could hear you guys and crystal.

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We've had the problem with the video before and we couldn't thought we knew what it was.

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But, uh, I went through.

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Whenever I recreated this uh interview, uh invite, I made sure that everything was checked properly and uh, it was or is, and we still don't have crystal's video, so we'll just have to catch her next time.

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But no, we got her audio and got her input in here.

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So why don't you tell us a little bit about Alicia Garcia, who she is, what she does, and a little bit of information about you?

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My name is Alicia Garcia.

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I am a Colorado native, I'm a Second Amendment advocate, I'm a civil rights activist here in the state of Colorado.

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I also am the plaintiff against the state of Colorado, suing them against the three-day waiting period to normalize gun culture through education, legislation and community.

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So I travel all across the United States, I attend different events, I host trainings here in Colorado, attend every gun control hearing that this square state wants to initiate and I do my best to be a voice for the people in letting them know that the second amendment is truly a the right that protects all other rights and needs to be treated with that respect.

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So that's what I do.

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All right, okay, sounds great.

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Sounds like you are got your hands full and got your hat in many pots.

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Yes, I do, yes, I do.

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All right.

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Well, as we said in the pre-show part of this episode series that Crystal and I kind of came up with, with this being a major political election cycle.

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With this being a major political election cycle, there's a lot going on currently and some people may not know about what is going on.

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Some may not have really any idea, just getting into firearms and not really had been a vocal in their political and civil rights movements and everything.

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So we wanted to kind of tail off and focus on some of this with people, our guests and part of some of the upcoming guests We've got Stephen Williford coming on for Gun Owners of America and a couple others that we're trying to get scheduled worked out.

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But I definitely wanted to make sure that people had the information to start looking into, vetting out some of the people that they have that are coming up for re-election or election and how to find out maybe a little bit about things that are coming up bills and things like that that they might want to pay more attention to and not just glaze it over, because, as we know, politicians will spin a lot of things into one big bill and if you're not familiar with what's going on into that bill, something will pass that you had no knowledge of.

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So why don't you tell us a little bit about how people can be an advocate for their second amendment rights?

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That starts with actually having a passion, starts with actually having a passion.

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So I think what deters a lot of people is they're they don't speak the legal language.

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They think, oh, you know what, what is it going to matter if I say anything?

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That, oh, I'm just one person, my voice doesn't matter, which is exactly the opposite of what we need.

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Your voice does matter.

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Your voice is the most important.

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One person really can change the world and I want people to start believing in that and reminding themselves that they are that important and their voice is essential to making change.

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I'm a firm believer in silence is compliance.

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So if you're not doing something to actively embrace and be active in your community and the litigation that's going on in your community, you're helping perpetuate the opposition.

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You're helping them get over on stealing away your freedoms freedoms.

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So for me, what it took was just being fed up.

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Just being fed up enough to say you know what?

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I can't sit around and let this stuff happen anymore.

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I have to do something, and I'm a firm believer in you know, there's only two.

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There's only two stages in life, right Growth or decay.

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You have to do one or the other If you're not actively growing and making efforts to grow, you're automatically decaying and contributing to that.

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So what I did is I just started looking up what's going on in my state.

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You know, I reached out to a lot of local civil rights and second amendment groups.

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I didn't find that there were very many that were being active or doing anything, especially in Colorado.

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There's a lot of these big name companies that are so-called second amendment advocacy groups, but what I was finding out is they're not doing anything on a state level to help advocate for the civilian voice.

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So me being a Colorado native, me being a local, I said well, you know what I'm going to be my own voice.

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Then I started looking into hearings that were coming up.

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I signed up for all the newsletters, whether you're Republican or Democrat, I signed up for both of those new letters newsletters because I want to see what they're discussing and I want to see what bills are being proposed.

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And then I started signing up to testify at public hearing and just learning the rope, the rules and the ropes.

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If you go to your secretary of state's website, they usually have instructions on the you know, the protocols of getting involved in those things, how long you're going to be able to speak where the hearings are being held, if you can, if you can testify remotely, if you want to testify in person, or if you want to submit written testimony In other states.

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I'm not sure how that goes, but here in the state of Colorado I highly discourage people from submitting written testimony because it doesn't get read aloud in court, it just gets filed with the bill, so it's not like it's really, you know, gracing anybody's desk or changing anybody's minds.

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I think the most impactful thing to do is to use your voice to sit in front of your litigators and say hey, you know what?

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I don't represent a organization, I represent myself, I represent my community, and this is why I either agree or disagree with what you're doing, and usually you have about two minutes to speak.

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If you go to my website, boomstickbabecom, you go to Colorado Two-Way Resources Boomstickbabecom you go to Colorado Two-Way Resources.

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I wrote a whole open letter to the public and an instructional on how to litigate in Colorado, how to testify in court.

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One of the things that I realized also is that it's very important to write your legislators.

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It's very important to call them and email them and let them know what your stance is on certain issues and when we're talking about the Second Amendment, I think the misconception that a lot of these people have, especially the anti-gunner, is they hear, you know, house Bill 241234 is a gun control bill that is designed to do this, this and that.

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And they know by guising and when I say they, I'm talking about your government, I'm talking about your anti-gun legislators when they propose these bills as gun control bills.

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They know that there is a mass group of people like Moms Demand and Everytown and all these anti-gun groups that are going to blindly support it because they hear gun control, they associate guns with being bad and blindly support it because they hear gun control, they associate guns with being bad and they show up and they say, yes, guns are bad.

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What people don't realize is that these bills are also violating more than just your Second Amendment rights.

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They're violating your Fourth Amendment right.

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They're violating your Fifth Amendment right.

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They're violating your 14th Amendment right.

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So they're bypassing your right to due process with red flag laws.

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They're violating illegal search and seizure with red flag laws.

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They're violating privacy by creating gun registries against your will.

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If you are required to purchase a gun and have merchant verification codes that flag visa and MasterCard of gun purchases, that flag, visa and mastercard of gun purchases.

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They're creating an illegal registry of gun owners, right, and they're not going to stop doing that until we, the people, tell them to stop and force them to stop.

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And by doing that is using your voice, getting involved, getting active, pushing back and letting them know that they work for you and if they don't do what you want them to do, that they will lose their job because you will vote them out.

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Yeah, yeah, I I've really pushed people.

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Uh, you know um big thing, for you know, if they don't hear you, they're not going to listen, uh, or they don't know and you've got to be communicating whether you're going to the state capitol to testify or to anything.

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Just getting in touch with your local current legislative representative and either talking with them on the phone or going to their satellite office or their office to sit down and have a talk with them.

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If they don't know what their constituents' thoughts are, they're just going to go, typically with the flow of what the mass does.

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And then I know we have all seen some of the videos where people are asking, uh, whether it's a political figure or just a general person.

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You know which one of the?

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I just saw one the other day where they had a picture of several different rifles, uh, paintball gun.

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And it's crazy People.

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They want to get behind something, which I'm all for.

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But know what you're getting behind.

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Don't just blindly follow the lead of somebody else.

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Be your own investigator.

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Follow the lead of somebody else, be your own investigator, investigate what's going on and know what you're pursuing or going after is actually what you want to.

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Because I'm not going to say that there's not.

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But there's some organizations that I have that will say that they're one thing, but under covertly they are actually showing a different perspective on their stance of gun control.

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Uh, or guns, pro-gun and maybe they're actually got a lot of anti-gun narratives up underneath there, but they're posing it as a pro-gun organization or pro-gun activist organization.

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I have that issue right now with many of these national pro-2A organizations.

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I don't want to sit here and trash them by name.

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I would happily do that on my own platform, but you know it's up to us, as the individuals that are paying for these services and paying for these organizations, to have, you know, stakes in our plight and if they are not following through with that, they need to be held accountable.

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The people and the consumer to reach out to these organizations and say hey, where are you?

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How come I'm not seeing you in hearing, in public hearing, advocating for the rights of the two-way community here?

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How come I'm not seeing you getting more involved in education in Colorado or in your state?

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When it comes to promoting Second Amendment advocacy, what I've noticed is that these people are going to do what they want until you give them no other choice, and I hate to be that way but, like I said, I've testified in pretty much every gun control hearing that Colorado has had for the past three years.

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I know exactly who I'm going to see there.

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I'm usually alone at those hearings, aside from a handful of the same people that I can count on seeing.

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You know.

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I always see a representative from Rocky Mountain Gun Owners here in Colorado.

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I usually see a representative from the NSSF there.

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I usually see my NRA rep testifying and a couple of other people from the community a gun shop owner by the name of Triple J Armory these people that are actively involved in fighting for their rights.

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Those are the companies that I'm inclined to support as well, because I see that they have an interest in protecting my rights here in my state.

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So I'm going to shop at Triple J because I know that every time that there's a gun control hearing he's there taking time out of his business, away from his family, to advocate for liberty, and I respect that and I appreciate that and I want to funnel that money towards that.

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And which leads me into a concept I think we really need to get really much more better on as a community is to start voting with your money, and I mean that sincerely stop supporting businesses and companies that are funding the agenda of gun control.

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Bloomberg is rampant with the money that they use to support anti-gun movements.

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Mom's demand action is flooded with financial backing.

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We need to start supporting companies that represent freedom, want to not pay fees that support the leftist agenda.

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You want to be able to save some money.

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Patriot Pay is a conservative-based merchant company that you can use at your business that helps support and fund companies like Rocky Mountain Gun Owners, the National Association for Gun Rights.

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They donate money to these organizations that help fight for you and pull the money out of the companies that are fighting against you.

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I have a company that I work with, patriot Mobile, that it's your cell phone that you use to take the money away from the other big name companies and funnel that money into conservative, more America liberty-based groups.

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And that's essential because you don't want to be sitting here.

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You know fighting your tail end off and yet you go to the store and you're shopping at businesses and you're supporting businesses that actually are.

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You know throwing money against you.

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Right, yeah, yeah, I know that.

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I know on the Congress level, you know people can sign up for notifications when people co-sponsor bills and things like that.

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But in my thought that's great to kind of help get you attuned to some things, but a lot of the activization actually needs to be done in the planning stage, before it hits the co-sponsoring with the representative.

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Yeah, they're going to have hearings and stuff like that.

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But I think that you know, just knowing what's going on nationally and locally in your state and even with your Some of the towns and cities that have anti-two-way stands, they get some sort of notification or they attend the meetings.

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It's very simple to go to your city council, county, commissioner meeting.

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It might be a travel to go to your state meetings and even the national meetings, but getting involved, taking that time to stand up and find out what is going on in your community, in your livelihood, and what's going to affect you ultimately down the road, that's one of the things that I kind of push people to do to stay active, stay informed.

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I don't like I'm not much of a news person the television news.

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I kind of pick and choose some of the media outlets because a lot of them are anti-2A and it's kind of can be daunting at times.

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You know, a lot of them are anti-2A and it's kind of can be daunting at times to know, well, are they for or against my beliefs?

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And uh, just trying to vet out some of those can be difficult at times.

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But, um, yeah, it's uh, education and, and you know, looking into things uh and staying on informed on things is uh whether it's through blogs, uh, newsletters and stuff like that really will help guide you into both uh laws that are upcoming or or discussions about laws that are pending or they're considering and things Um so, uh, so knowledge is important.

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Knowledge is king.

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A lot of these political activist organization things start happening at a very, very small level.

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They start in your HOA, they start at your school council meetings, your parent parent teacher conferences all of these organizations that are locally involved in your community.

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That's where things begin to pick up power and and get steam.

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So get involved locally in your community, you know.

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Be a member of your Rotary Club, be a member of if you're a Democrat not saying that I am, but get you know be involved in your local Democratic organization.

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Get involved in your local Republican or Libertarian organization.

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Start making friends in a community level and start having these conversations, because change starts small right.

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Everything that is now a grand global idea started with the thought, and thoughts are things.

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To think is to create, to create is to perpetuate, and you have to have some place where that spark is going to thrive and you have to have a community that you can come together and work together on to create these ideas into action and plans of action.

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I'm actually starting a I like to call a syndicate on my website here that I am researching locally with a lot of people on my X platform on Twitter.

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You can follow me there at Boomstick Babe on Twitter X.

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But I'm getting together with a lot of people in Colorado that are freedom companies and I implore you all to do the same thing.

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If you'd like me to put together something for your state, feel free to reach out to me.

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But I want to start connecting people in all avenues of life to support each other that are like-minded in the same thing.

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So, for example, I need an electrician.

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I don't want to call major company X that's a corporation that could give a darn about my money or give a darn about my politics.

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I want to call a company that is pro two way pro freedom, small business.

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I want to support a small business because I want to help a family.

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I want to keep the money in my state and the money in my community.

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So where could I do that?

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I'm building a directory for that online and what I'm doing is saying, okay, business A, if you want to be featured in this directory, that way we could refer business to you.

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You know, make the fee an annual fee of 35 bucks something very cheap and easy.

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That way it takes away the overhead costs and the administrative costs.

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But now they have a network of individuals that hey, you need a photographer, go to this person because they're in alignment with the same values that we have.

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Hey, you want somebody that you know to learn from.

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You want a firearms instructor?

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Here's my network of firearms instructor all across the state of Colorado that I recommend, that I've trained with and I've worked with, that are in alignment with the values that we have, and what that starts doing is it creates relationships and alliances that we are stronger, united, we're talking to each other, we're communicating, and when these things happen, when it comes to a political level, we're united and we're forceful.

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Now, so, not only you're, not just one voice, you're all the voices of the people, and we're organized.

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That's one thing I've noticed about people like Moms, demand Action and Everytown.

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They're highly organized, and the reason they're highly organized is because they have funding.

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They have funding from Bloomberg, they have funding from George Soros, they're paying for crisis actors to show up at these hearings and these rallies, and that's exactly what we need to do is become more organized and be choosy with our money and who we're surrounding ourselves with, and have a place where we can have those conversations and be organized and get together and and have these plans of action of saying, okay, these are the people we're not going to support.

00:24:34.904 --> 00:24:38.375
These are the people we are going to support and putting our efforts and energy into that.

00:24:39.224 --> 00:24:40.250
Okay, all right.

00:24:40.250 --> 00:24:58.473
So, with your activism, activism and with the increase of gun owners, being a lot of women getting into the gun field now, and even some of the minorities are what?

00:24:58.473 --> 00:25:16.069
What are some things that you could recommend that maybe that they they do, or, uh, um, maybe in their community form a, a group or a gathering, uh that, so that they could start?

00:25:16.069 --> 00:25:20.739
Hey, we don, we don't have anybody in our city of XYZ.

00:25:20.739 --> 00:25:29.839
How can we start something and make our voice known for the women or the minorities that are pro-2A?

00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:33.490
What are some things that you would?

00:25:33.490 --> 00:25:39.920
How would somebody possibly try to start something so that they can have their voice known?

00:25:41.546 --> 00:25:42.169
Be the change.

00:25:42.169 --> 00:25:46.464
Honestly, believe in yourself enough to know that you can do it by yourself.

00:25:46.464 --> 00:25:50.733
You don't need there to be somebody like you for you to be like you.

00:25:50.733 --> 00:25:54.490
If you see that there is need for something, be that person.

00:25:54.490 --> 00:26:00.768
We can't sit around and wait for other people to make something happen for you, right?

00:26:00.768 --> 00:26:03.755
So if you see a need, feel that need and do what you can.

00:26:03.755 --> 00:26:07.510
Don't bite off more than you can chew and be able to say you know what.

00:26:08.031 --> 00:26:18.900
I'm doing my part, whether that is, you know, reaching out to your local congressman, your local senator, your local house representative and saying hey, I'm Jane Smith.

00:26:18.900 --> 00:26:24.314
I noticed that you have voted pro-gun in all of these things.

00:26:24.314 --> 00:26:26.076
I'm very pro-gun.

00:26:26.076 --> 00:26:35.451
How do I get more involved in sharing this information and just start those conversations, start attending events where you can mingle and meet other people like yourself.

00:26:35.451 --> 00:26:46.575
If there's a girl in a gun I'm not a member of a girl in a gun, but maybe there's a girl in the gun chapter where you live reach out to them and go check them out.

00:26:46.734 --> 00:26:48.862
The Well-Armed Woman used to be an organization.

00:26:48.862 --> 00:26:50.205
I don't know if they're around anymore.

00:26:50.205 --> 00:26:53.031
I think it's like 2A, something I know.

00:26:53.031 --> 00:27:01.028
Goa has a 2A empowered women organization that I was just at one of their events that I attended a few weeks ago in Texas.

00:27:01.028 --> 00:27:02.250
Reach out to me.

00:27:02.250 --> 00:27:03.694
You know what I mean.

00:27:03.694 --> 00:27:05.198
Like I'm more than happy.

00:27:05.258 --> 00:27:08.219
If you don't have anybody to talk to, I'm your huckleberry.

00:27:08.219 --> 00:27:13.595
If you're interested in learning about something when it comes to guns or creating a network, I'm here.

00:27:13.595 --> 00:27:17.538
That's exactly what I want people to understand is the internet isn't real.

00:27:17.538 --> 00:27:25.117
So you see, all these big time two way you know fancy pants, people oh, I'm on call of duty.

00:27:25.117 --> 00:27:26.969
They're all these super, super big names.

00:27:27.671 --> 00:27:28.333
I'm not that.

00:27:28.333 --> 00:27:37.653
I'm a regular, old, average, everyday gal who decided that something needed to be done and I said, well, if nobody else is going to do it, I'm going to do it, and you could do that too.

00:27:37.653 --> 00:27:42.759
So if you want some help, you're welcome to reach out to me and pick my brain, or just.

00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:46.291
You know, ain't nothing to it, but to do it you have to embrace the suck.

00:27:46.291 --> 00:27:50.750
You're not going to be everything the first time around.

00:27:50.750 --> 00:27:54.076
You're going to suck at it, you're going to make mistakes, you're going to fall.

00:27:54.076 --> 00:28:04.077
You're not going to know everything, but that's okay and that's okay, and that's one of the things I really like to showcase on my platform is I post videos of when I mess up.

00:28:04.077 --> 00:28:11.008
I post videos of my screw ups when I'm dry firing and I'm training, because how are we ever going to learn If you're not failing?

00:28:11.008 --> 00:28:12.653
You're not trying hard enough, right?

00:28:13.494 --> 00:28:16.393
Yeah, yeah, that's good.

00:28:16.393 --> 00:28:18.854
I'm just looking through there.

00:28:18.854 --> 00:28:26.836
There's another person that I'm looking to try to get on to, the to our platform that speaks about women's.

00:28:26.836 --> 00:28:31.267
It's the one million moms against gun control, rebecca Schmo, and.

00:28:31.969 --> 00:28:33.113
I love her.

00:28:33.473 --> 00:28:36.632
Yes, I love her.

00:28:38.008 --> 00:29:10.098
Out of Kansas, wonderful lady so yes, so we're gonna gonna a little teaser, uh, gonna reach out to her, or reaching out to her to try to get see if she'll come on and speak about the, the women aspect of it and and, like I said, a lot of the new gun owners the last since COVID and everything are women and they're making up about 57%, I think, of the new gun owners, somewhere in that number.

00:29:10.786 --> 00:30:01.429
And, uh, no, women can be very active, uh, no more so if they know the husband typically is the one that goes out and does the work and the mom has the I won't say extra time that's not fair where they juggle many hats a lot easier than some of us other people and that they can actually make their voice known because they can plan and get involved to raise awareness in whatever topic that they're wanting to discuss, whether it's constitutional carry or red flag laws or something like that that's going on in their state.

00:30:01.429 --> 00:30:02.711
Uh, it's like in Georgia.

00:30:02.711 --> 00:30:08.926
There's a um talk I've already heard did some pieces of it.

00:30:08.926 --> 00:30:21.560
They're trying to get the stand your ground repealed out of the state statute and I think that's a very, very wrong thing to do.

00:30:21.560 --> 00:30:36.325
And uh, uh, I just um people if they're not aware, like I said, they things will get snuck into bills and things where you just won't realize it, and uh, then you're sitting around wondering why, why this happened.

00:30:36.325 --> 00:30:39.762
Um so, they're.

00:30:40.002 --> 00:30:41.906
Georgia is one of my favorite places on earth.

00:30:41.906 --> 00:30:45.094
I absolutely love the state of georgia.

00:30:45.094 --> 00:30:46.846
I'm there quite a lot actually.

00:30:46.846 --> 00:30:53.468
So the reason I go to georgia is because a lot of my favorite two-way people and mentors are in georgia.

00:30:53.468 --> 00:30:57.760
So I work a lot with ken scott of the perfect is right, he's out there.

00:30:57.760 --> 00:31:11.015
I work a lot with kevin dixie no Other Choice and I'll actually be there next month at the end of May, memorial Day weekend, because Kevin Dixie has an event called.

00:31:11.496 --> 00:31:12.116
Train and Learn.

00:31:15.345 --> 00:31:18.359
So this is going to be the first year Train and Learn is actually going to be in Georgia.

00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:25.329
It's been in St Louis, missouri, for the past couple of years and Kevin Dixie is a huge advocate for the Second Amendment.

00:31:25.329 --> 00:31:33.894
He's a great educator and he's a great advocate for the people, not in just a Second Amendment space, but in a freedom space.

00:31:33.894 --> 00:31:36.690
So he educates children, families.

00:31:36.690 --> 00:31:58.066
He just bought 40 acres of land out in McDonough, georgia, where he is building his nonprofit called Aiming for the Truth, where he is going to be teaching basically life skills to all people gardening, to self-defense, to history, to counteracting illiteracy all of these community enrichment things.

00:31:58.539 --> 00:32:05.634
So if you are in Georgia and you are in the Second Amendment space, it would be very advantageous of you to attend this event.

00:32:05.634 --> 00:32:07.865
It is Memorial Day weekend.

00:32:07.865 --> 00:32:11.642
You could sign up at no other choice dot com Go to train and learn tab.

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It's only 400 bucks for three days worth of education, which is out of the world cheap.

00:32:17.193 --> 00:32:19.624
You're never going to find anything rich like this.

00:32:19.663 --> 00:32:33.617
So if you want to become an advocate, if you want to be involved in this space, that is a place where you're going to have access to some of the most knowledgeable people in the industry to educate you and lead you with their experience.

00:32:33.617 --> 00:32:35.324
We're having people from YouTube come out.

00:32:35.324 --> 00:32:43.131
We're having some of the most successful YouTubers in the Second Amendment space come out and speak to you and lecture on how to build your platform.

00:32:43.131 --> 00:32:48.744
We have had force on force instructors out there.

00:32:48.744 --> 00:32:52.422
We have had some of the best rifle and pistol instructors out hand-to-hand combat people teaching you how to develop your business acumen.

00:32:52.422 --> 00:32:57.843
We've had Sean of we Like Shooting come out and teach you how to be successful in your podcast.

00:32:57.843 --> 00:33:07.904
It's a space to enrich yourself and develop yourself and I highly suggest anybody who wants to be more successful and invest in themselves that's the event to attend.

00:33:07.904 --> 00:33:09.068
That's great.

00:33:13.181 --> 00:33:14.887
It's not out of reach just yet.

00:33:14.887 --> 00:33:25.672
I've got some logistic things that after I found out that they were doing it in Georgia and over Memorial day weekend, it's like oh, I had some plans.

00:33:25.672 --> 00:33:28.490
I'm trying to see if I can juggle some things around.

00:33:28.490 --> 00:33:37.105
I don't know if I'm going to be able to, but, uh, hopefully, if I can't, maybe they'll keep it in Georgia next year and I can uh attend it next year.

00:33:39.260 --> 00:33:46.829
Because, like I said, kevin bought 40 acres out there in McDonough, all right, so it is absolutely beautiful piece of land.

00:33:46.829 --> 00:33:53.348
I'm so proud of him, I'm so excited for him and I I have attended every train and learn, except for the first one.

00:33:53.690 --> 00:33:53.930
Okay.

00:33:54.180 --> 00:34:17.789
So when that happened, I um, when, after I attended, I believed that I believe in this event so much that I actually work for him now, I told him I'm going to help you, I'm going to do staffing for you, I will do the registration, I will do all these things for you because it's something that I believe in and I want to help him and that's how we build right.

00:34:17.789 --> 00:34:19.101
That's how we build in this industry.

00:34:19.101 --> 00:34:32.418
I think a lot of people, you know, come into this two-way space and they look at each other as competition, when we should be looking at each other as opportunities to collaborate and to help one another, because if one of us succeeds, we all succeed right.

00:34:32.458 --> 00:34:40.144
Because this is about liberty and about unity, and it's about changing the narrative of what gun owners look like and normalizing gun culture.

00:34:40.144 --> 00:35:08.900
And there there can be somebody that maybe Kevin can reach, that I can't because they don't identify with me, or vice versa, maybe there's something that will identify with me more than they do him, and that's bridging the gap and welcoming people into the space and giving people a safe place to learn and letting them know that all levels of experience are welcome, and the less experience you have the better, because you don't have old habits or misconceptions that you have to break.

00:35:08.900 --> 00:35:17.072
You have all this opportunity to invest in yourself and enrich yourself and become better at whatever it is that you want to do, and we need that.

00:35:19.454 --> 00:35:19.956
That's great.

00:35:19.956 --> 00:35:21.422
That's great.

00:35:21.422 --> 00:35:30.032
Like I said, I don't know if I'm going to be able to arrange it this year, but I'm definitely going to block off time next year.

00:35:30.032 --> 00:35:43.105
Hopefully it's going to be about the same time period the last weekend of May or somewhere around there, but I'll put off a couple-week area where maybe I can hopefully be able to attend it next year.

00:35:44.961 --> 00:35:46.005
Well, I hope to see you there.

00:35:46.947 --> 00:35:53.490
Yeah, a couple of my good friends have been there and they've talked about it.

00:35:53.490 --> 00:35:55.923
I know Rob Beckman has been there quite a bit.

00:35:55.923 --> 00:36:05.085
Amy Lucas yes, I think Matt Mallory was there last year.

00:36:05.085 --> 00:36:06.349
Matt's come down here.

00:36:06.349 --> 00:36:24.255
Yeah, matt came down two years ago and I got certified through the saber pepper spray course with him and he'll be coming back down in october to do another pepper spray instructor course for us and also doing a force on force instructor course.

00:36:24.255 --> 00:36:27.505
So I'm looking forward to having him back down.

00:36:27.505 --> 00:36:51.472
He was a lot, yeah, yeah, if people really took the time to understand the firearms community and even with the instructors firearms community and even with the instructors, uh, no, we're, we're all the majority of us that are in it for the right reasons, are very supportive and no, we'll help out others.

00:36:52.222 --> 00:36:57.802
Uh, other instructors, other individuals, and it's like whenever I have people I take, they come, take a class.

00:36:57.802 --> 00:37:00.048
I tell them continue your education.

00:37:00.048 --> 00:37:05.271
Whether it's with me, I would love to have you continue it with me, but if not, no, find somebody else.

00:37:05.271 --> 00:37:26.081
Because you know, we're all humans, we, we all have different learning styles and teaching styles and something I I may be teaching may not resonate with you, but another instructor can put it in their terms, and no light goes off on, uh, the, and you know, light goes off when they gather all the information.

00:37:26.081 --> 00:37:41.983
So I'm really thankful for the cadre of instructors that we have, both locally and nationally, that we all are striving to make the teaching for the right reasons, teaching for the right reasons.

00:37:42.905 --> 00:37:47.873
And that's the thing, is this building a strong network of friends and alliances.

00:37:47.873 --> 00:37:58.880
It's it's events like this that that is where that happens, because you know you attend, like the NRA conference you attend, you know the shot show, all these big events.

00:37:58.880 --> 00:37:59.905
There's so many people.

00:37:59.905 --> 00:38:04.222
You're not actually getting one-on-one time and having these conversations.

00:38:04.222 --> 00:38:10.202
You're like drinking through a fire hose with remembering who you are and them remembering you.

00:38:10.202 --> 00:38:12.711
And an event like this is a very boutique event.

00:38:12.711 --> 00:38:23.675
Kevin has swore that he will always keep it a boutique event because he wants people to have that personal experience, so it's only about 60 attendees that he allows every year.

00:38:24.498 --> 00:38:26.525
And you're getting one-on-one time with vendors.

00:38:26.525 --> 00:38:28.351
You're getting one-on-one time with USCCA.

00:38:28.351 --> 00:38:30.385
You're getting one-on-one time with primary arms.

00:38:30.385 --> 00:38:32.771
You're getting one-on-one time with Brownells.

00:38:32.771 --> 00:38:41.125
You're getting all this intimate instruction as well, from people like Matt Mallory, from people like Trayvon Barber, who taught pistol last year.

00:38:41.125 --> 00:38:43.347
That was absolutely mind-blowing and phenomenal.

00:38:43.347 --> 00:38:47.215
People like Trayvon Barber, who taught pistol last year.

00:38:47.215 --> 00:38:48.677
That was absolutely mind-blowing and phenomenal.

00:38:48.677 --> 00:38:49.498
You get people like Fit to Fight.

00:38:49.498 --> 00:38:50.260
That went out there.

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They teach hand-to-hand fighting skills.

00:38:52.152 --> 00:38:54.847
We had this gentleman His name is escaping me right now.

00:38:54.847 --> 00:39:00.126
I hope that he forgives me, but he is a professional knife thrower and he taught us how to throw knives.

00:39:00.126 --> 00:39:13.588
And it's like you're learning all of these skills and all of these avenues on how to be a better version of yourself, but you're also networking and creating a relationship with these people that have these vast sets of knowledge.

00:39:13.588 --> 00:39:20.427
Like, if I wanted to, I could message Matt Mallory right now and say, hey, matt, you know, can you give me some information on this?

00:39:20.427 --> 00:39:28.012
And he's going to do his darndest to share that knowledge with me because we've made that friendship and we've bridged that gap.

00:39:28.012 --> 00:39:31.867
That it's like hey, you know who I am now and now you're a resource to me.

00:39:31.867 --> 00:39:37.681
And that's how we get better and that's how we get stronger in this industry is by creating those strategic alliances.

00:39:38.121 --> 00:39:41.003
Right, yeah, so that's great.

00:39:41.003 --> 00:39:44.666
I'm like I have told several people.

00:39:44.666 --> 00:40:08.717
When I started this podcast last year I was originally just thinking about doing it for my students, you know, as a kind of a closed community, to kind of flourish bit by the podcast bug Go ahead, podcast bug and it's something that I'm enjoying.

00:40:08.717 --> 00:40:19.132
I'm seeing the need to kind of help spread the information that we've had on so far.

00:40:19.132 --> 00:40:36.367
I had Mike Sudini from Walk the Talk America, had Joy Sarah Albrecht on for Hold my Guns and just topics that people may not think of, and that's something that I wanted to bring.

00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:50.751
You know, everybody thinks firearms, firearms, firearms, but there's a whole lot more into being a responsible gun owner and first aid, mental health, survival tactics.

00:40:50.751 --> 00:41:05.755
I had matt mallory on talking about, uh, prepping a little for environmental basically environmental things that may happen, and he's going to be coming back on to do a less lethal force episode with us.

00:41:05.755 --> 00:41:10.052
So you know just things that people may not understand.

00:41:10.052 --> 00:41:22.907
Then David and I and Crystal will get together at times and just have random topics that we'll discuss Ammunition, carry positions and holsters and things like that.

00:41:22.907 --> 00:41:30.376
So that's part of why I got into doing this was I wanted to teach people.

00:41:30.376 --> 00:41:50.351
I wanted them to be knowledgeable and not be afraid of not doing the right thing or being afraid to do something because they did not know, and that's just something that I felt a strong heart to do.

00:41:52.402 --> 00:42:05.454
And what I think the misconception is is that when people want to come in the Second Amendment space, they think that they need to be a firearms instructor, when there are so many other things that this community needs.

00:42:05.454 --> 00:42:07.985
We are saturated instructors.

00:42:07.985 --> 00:42:12.472
We need advocates, we need people who have marketing skills.

00:42:12.472 --> 00:42:15.786
We need people who have public speaking skills.

00:42:15.786 --> 00:42:17.811
We need people that have public relations skills.

00:42:17.811 --> 00:42:44.456
We need people that are offering mental health solutions, medical solutions, that are tactful in building equipment or creating networking, that do media there is so many or research we need a ton of other willing to do the research on providing us actual, tangible supporting, supporting information as to why defensive gun use is so important.

00:42:44.896 --> 00:42:51.652
We need to counteract these narratives and you know these billion dollar pockets that the opposition has.

00:42:51.652 --> 00:42:54.847
So it's not just about being a firearms instructor.

00:42:54.847 --> 00:43:03.208
It's about embracing your freedoms to exist Right and to use your voice, because you know we all say this all the time.

00:43:03.208 --> 00:43:06.094
But the second really does protect all the rest of the amendments.

00:43:06.094 --> 00:43:14.711
And how are we supposed to thrive, how are we supposed to speak our mind if we don't have something that guarantees that we're safe for doing so?

00:43:15.032 --> 00:43:15.233
Right.

00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:19.208
How are we supposed to provide for our family if we don't have a way to do that?

00:43:20.351 --> 00:43:24.842
Yeah, Crystal, you've got anything.

00:43:24.842 --> 00:43:27.766
Any questions Kind of ran off.

00:43:27.766 --> 00:43:33.302
All the ones that came to my mind about that I was wanting to kind of touch on.

00:43:33.302 --> 00:43:34.989
You got anything that you want to add?

00:43:36.380 --> 00:43:38.007
No, not at the top.

00:43:38.007 --> 00:43:38.922
I'm kind of tired.

00:43:38.922 --> 00:43:41.907
I've been up since four, so my brain is a little bit all out.

00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:46.422
All right, I'm having a great time I've been up since four, so my brain is a little bit all.

00:43:46.358 --> 00:43:46.710
So, all right.

00:43:46.710 --> 00:43:47.164
Well, I'm having a great time.

00:43:47.164 --> 00:43:53.829
I really appreciate that you guys are doing what you're doing and I I really appreciate you creating a platform that way.

00:43:53.829 --> 00:44:17.454
There's, you know, people like myself that can have a moment and a place to get our voices heard and to share my platforms and to share my perspectives and come together because, you know, it's so important that we continue having these conversations and showing that this community can and will be united if we just start listening to each other.

00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:22.730
Yeah, and I think that's just really where it all begins is everybody wants to be safe.

00:44:22.730 --> 00:44:30.601
Everybody wants to make sure that their family is taken care of, and you know that they have a right to feel safe in their homes.

00:44:30.601 --> 00:44:42.250
I just think that when we're talking about people that are anti-gun or anti-freedom, their idea of what that safety looked like is different from ours, and we have a lot more in common than we realize.

00:44:42.250 --> 00:44:47.728
So when we have conversations like this and open things up, we're reaching different audiences.

00:44:47.728 --> 00:44:55.030
So congratulations on, you know, creating this podcast and using your voice to be a part of the change well, thank you.

00:44:55.831 --> 00:45:11.137
So, uh, with the close of the, the podcast, uh, if somebody wanted to know a little bit more about Alicia and how to contact you or maybe some of your platforms that you're, they'll be posted in the show notes.

00:45:11.137 --> 00:45:23.755
So, from what you gave me already, but if somebody is listening and doesn't have time to read the show notes, where are some of the platforms that they could find out more about you or have more information?

00:45:25.380 --> 00:45:28.108
You can follow me on Instagram at the Boomstick Babe.

00:45:28.108 --> 00:45:31.179
At the Boomstick Babe, you can find me on YouTube.

00:45:31.179 --> 00:45:39.360
I'm starting to make more content for YouTube, as gun friendly as I can with all their other censorship that they do, but that's at the Boomstick Babe.

00:45:39.360 --> 00:45:50.690
Also, you can find me on X where I'm heavily, heavily harassing all of these Colorado pirates, and I am at Boomstick Babe there.

00:45:51.380 --> 00:45:53.507
I am also on Facebook, boomstick Babe.

00:45:53.507 --> 00:45:54.230
You can find me there.

00:45:54.230 --> 00:45:58.472
Or you can go to my website and go to BoomstickBabecom and reach out to me that way as well.

00:45:58.472 --> 00:46:00.105
I am everywhere you go.

00:46:00.105 --> 00:46:03.851
If you just look for Boomstick Babe, google me, you will find me.

00:46:03.851 --> 00:46:05.489
I'm not hard to find.

00:46:06.072 --> 00:46:08.085
All right, okay, thank you so much.

00:46:08.085 --> 00:46:15.869
And the last closing question is something that I got this idea from Rob whenever he did his.

00:46:15.869 --> 00:46:27.081
I was on his podcast, a few about a year and a half ago, a few about a year and a half ago.

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But uh question we're asking everybody is, uh, this year is what do you do for relaxation, relaxation away from your normal everyday activities?

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What's what's your de-stressor?

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oh man, I love to just zone out with my dogs and my man I think I'm.

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I'm very spoiled in the sense that I have probably one of the most wonderful partners in the world and I have a.

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I have, I love dogs and I have a great network of friends.

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I'm a homebody and I like to be home.

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So, for me just being able to be home and be together and be with my family and relax and have jokes and, you know, maybe crack open a beer and just unwind.

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I mean it sounds so cliche, but I love to shoot guns.

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I love to shoot guns and people are like, well, you do that for a living.

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It's like, but you don't understand, I chose to do this because I absolutely love it so much.

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So it's like if I need to de-stress or I need to decompress my brain, literally just sit here and do some dry fire drills.

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I can't shut my mind down.

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I'll just get up, I'll throw my comfort concealment belt on, I'll clear my firearm and I'll just start doing dry fire drills and getting in that mode.

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And that always does it for me.

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And I love to travel, so travel as well.

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Okay, yeah, the reason I asked that thought of that question is I wanted everybody to see that, because of people that are in firearms, not everybody finds relaxation in firearms, especially if they teach it a lot.

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I've had some people that say I teach it so much I have something else to get away from, and it's like I had Brian Eastridge on and his thing was music.

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There's some others that are, you know, just everybody's different.

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You know we're all unique individuals.

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We all have things that appeal to us, some things that not necessarily doesn't work.

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So I just wanted to bring up the you know, the differences and how we, you know, maybe give light to somebody that is saying, man, I'm zoned out today or I I'm burnout and I don't know what to do for relaxation.

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You know music, reading a book, being with family, whatever it is, find, whatever it is to kind of break down that wall, drop, you know, relax and everything.

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So I appreciate your answer there.

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I love to dance.

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I love to book.

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I love to be a nerd Like I'm a tomboy through and through.

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I love comic books.

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You know I love to go swimming.

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We have a hot tub here at the house.

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Sometimes I'll just go out and sit at the hot tub and have a nice cocktail.

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But you know anything, anything that has to do with just cutting loose and being fun.

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I'm a I'm a very lively person so I'm always up for anything.

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I love to eat.

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I love food.

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So it's like if you feed me, you're not going to get rid of me.

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I'm like a puppy, so it's like don't offer me to take me to a bite, to eat or go somewhere, because I don't need to be the hottest chick in the room.

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I'm the hungriest chick in the room.

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So it's like who wants, who's buying lunch?

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I will be your new best friend, so food is definitely a passion of mine.

00:49:51.255 --> 00:49:54.117
Yeah, okay, all right.

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Well, again, I thank you for your time, alicia, and maybe we'll come back and discuss some things as we get, maybe, closer to the November election cycle.

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I'm sure a lot of things will come into play in the next six months or so, so I would love to have you back on if we can work things out.

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And again, thank you for your time tonight.

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And thank you both.

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I really appreciate it.

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You're welcome.

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Bye-bye.

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Goodbye.

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